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Article Source: ABC NewsRobyn Paul, her husband and their three children look like the classic American family -- until you find out that Tiernan, their kindergartner, is still breast-feeding.
For those who may be interested in following this story further, it will be featured on ABC-TV's 20/20.
However, I suggest we boycott the show... at least this one... as a sign of protest against such perversions.
Anyone who gets satisfaction from breast-feeding a school-ager is not worth encouraging.
Breast-feeding your infant is often the right choice -- although it isn't possible for all mothers and babies.
Breast-feeding for nourishment is appropriate in the proper setting.
Breast-feeding for comfort... is questionable.
Breast-feeding a child who is old enough to carry on a conversation with the mother... that is wrong from any angle.
This woman is harming her children... all three of them. Her husband is equally at fault for permitting such activity.
Good luck, Tiernan... you'll need it.
Snot Rag:
I forget the actress, you can google it I am sure, but there is a famous picture of her "breast feeding" (intentional quotes) her son who is standing and suckling on her breasts. The kid was about 6 or so. Bizarre.
I thought it was so appropriate given the circumstances. It does kinda stick on you though doesn't it?
LMAO
unfortunatly there are those groups who encourage it beyound 4 and up to 8yrs old.
The poor man in their life!
lol DoYouHaveAFlag, that was grossly appropriate with the seed.
Wow.
When I was 16 I worked at a cafe and a woman came in with two children. Both said they were hungry and she bought herself a meal and her about 12 yo daughter a burger. Her son repeated he was hungry and she said wait until we get to the car. I thought maybe a special diet we couldn't accommodate due to allergies maybe. Then he started trying to pull up her shirt and attach. Luckily my manager saw and took over the order because I was in shock. I admit being naive but.... I still get the eww feeling remembering. I nursed mine 6-12 months depending on the child. One was a premie and that was 18 months, but 8 years????
Since then a teacher at my sons school mentioned they had a mom last year that would come to school at lunch and wanted to nurse in the office. They told her no because other children come in and out of the office all day and parents would be offended. So she took her son to the parking lot. He was in third grade. Ladies at some point it is beneficial to cut the cord. When a child asks for food, feed them food instead of putting your own needs first.
in third grade?!? blech!
imagine that poor kid if/when his classmates find out...won't they think he's a...boob?
Some found out, for the most part he was very lonely. Boys ridiculed him. Girls looked at him funny. In his world it was normal, in our world, kids are cruel when uncomfortable.
Breast feeding is healthy first 3-6 months for mental development of your baby. ''BABY'' is the key word.
Breast feeding. I gave that up when I was a baby and went back to it much much later.
about your link in 1.2
omg...roflmao, but throwing up at the same time. Some one give me some mammary erasers...I mean memory erasers
Do you have a flag.....I wish I could take a "after video clip" pill, but thank you for the laughs! Now I've seen everything.
roflmfao...really funny clip
lol Karl, you always manage to put a smile on my face, thank you :)
ack! a kindergartner is still breastfeeding????
dave, i agree with you on all points.
#2 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 11:59 AM ESTExactly, when your mother comes to school to bring you your lunch...it should be in a @!$%#ing paper bag!
Can you just see him at lunch break?
excuse me, do you have any grey poupon?
"We've had conversations about what it tastes like and he says it's very sweet," like vanilla ice cream, Paul said.
Um, er, um, er....
And the 9 year old still wishes she could breastfeed?!?!
#3 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 12:36 PM ESTMother's milk is actually very sweet. I tasted it as a matter of curiosity when my wife and I had our first born.
I think that most of us can agree on the following: You know you should have stopped breastfeeding your kid at least a year ago, when he starts arguing with you about when and how he should get to that boobie.
Grammie's Cookies and Lady Blue 81,
*gag* *barf*
I find your reaction quite fascinating... Do you have the same reaction toward cow milk, a liquid that nature clearly intended for the bovine family? I know... this question does not seem fair at all - and it is not. It does not take social conditioning into account. Yet, think about it. Mother's milk is closer to our metabolism than cow's.
I however dont think human milk will ever make it to the main stream... I could not see myself at hooters, eyeing a resplendescent waitress, and saying "Yes! I will have that one."
Karl_... I, for one, have never visited a Hooters establishment with the intention of eyeing up the waitresses.
I go for the wings.
Eyeing up the waitresses... that's just an unfortunate and unavoidable part of the dining experience.
C'mon, sweetheart... you know I only have eyes for you. Now, where's that waitress? My water needs a little freshening. And I think I dropped my fork... again.
snot:
And you buy Playboy for the articles and interviews, right?
wmolaw... why buy hamburger when I have steak at home?
Is my wife still reading over my shoulder?
Snotrag:
No, she's gone. That was a wasted effort at brownie points.
And as we know, men only have so many of those in their psyche, and you just wasted one!
Ah, yes. But since my post remains until my deletion... I can re-use that same feeble attempt without additional effort.
What happens if, by some chance, you leave the computer, she wanders in and sees this on the screen!
Then you are double dipped, eh? You have lost the ability to use for brownie points, and actually secured negative brownie points for trying to use it.
I may fall a bit short in the brownie points, yes... but, after 29 years, I guess she's built up quite a bit of tolerance.
Besides, if I don't mind that her jaw drops at the mere mention of Denzel... then I'd say my @ss isn't grass yet. ;-)
Insane women raising children and her a husband he's not playing with a full deck either.
#4 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 12:39 PM ESTI'm wondering if they are good friends with the family who named their children Adolph Hitler and Aryan Nation.
I wonder if supporting hubby just has a fetish of his own....I didn't think nursing was a turn on but, some people like strange things. Picnic tables, feet.....
Eeeewww! Once a child is potty trained, they should be weaned from the breast, the bottle, the pacifier, etc. . .
I have nothing against women who breast feed, nor do I have anything against bottle (formula) feeding a baby. The key word here, for me anyway, is BABY.
I breast fed my oldest son for three months, then switched to bottles, but due to medical circumstances, I was unable to breast feed my second son. It's true that breast milk has nutritional components which help fight infections. For instance, my oldest child never had an ear infection as a baby. However, the bottle fed baby had ear infections every three months, starting at 4 months old.
Perhaps I'm from a generation that's somewhat in between views on this subject. Breast feeding is natural an normal. There are many benefits to nursing a baby. I'm just very uncomfortable with the thought that a six year old will just climb up on his mother's lap and lift her shirt to find comfort. This mother should seriously consider helping the child find other ways to cope with stress or to find comfort for himself. I don't see how she is helping her children find comfort on their own. Every living creature that is able to reproduce, at some point, forces their offspring to handle the world on their own. Of course their parents are there for protection and guidance, but it's healthier to show them how to take care of themselves.
#7 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 12:50 PM ESTMy brothers high-school girl friends mother (wow) did this. Her kid(s) would just lift her shirt and feed no matter where they were. My brother said it would actually make him spill cookies, mostly because she was a extremely "unhealthy" woman, but he got the %$lls to tell her kids to stop doing it! They actually listened, because they were 5-8 years old, and old enough to comprehend why they shouldnt be doing it. They never did it again once he pointed out that they don't see other kids doing it.
These mothers have to understand that maybe these kids wouldn't want it if they knew any better. I just think these moms do it out of pure laziness.
Plus, for how long does you child need to eat every chemical you ingest? Do they need the tylenol you just took? Or the beer she just drank? I seriously would put it out there to these woman that the mc'd's they just ate might not need to go to the child -twice!
We ingest quite a bit of chemicals in food, drink, meds...how many doses are good for a kid?????????
Libra,
very intelligent view, I agree. I might add that at some point, I believe it crosses over to a form of molestation; to continue at such older ages.
My grandfather was a child molester that used to brag about how he was breastfed until he was 14. An extreme case no doubt, but I'm sure it contributed to his lack of values. By the way My grandfather died in the act....very befitting.
I think there is a law against that...........................incest?
#8 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 1:01 PM ESTActually, breastfeeding for this long can be found in numerous indeigenous cultures around the world. This is nothing more than a violation of a cultural norm. It isn't perverse or anything comparable to incest. There are countless women in the the United States who choose to breast feed for this long just go to a La Leche League meeting and you'll find some there.
I too think it's strange but there is no reason for people to go nuts over this woman. I doubt it will cause any harm to the child at this stage in his developement but if it goes on too much longer i don't think it will be healthy (also if it continues for much longer we should check in to the mother's mental state).
To each their own is what i say. But oh, to be a fly on the wall in that house. Trippy.
This just feels strange to me....
"I really feel that there is an extra bonding or attachment there that I would like to think that because he nursed until he was 6, that there was some more closeness there ...
I wonder what cultures around the world encourage the above....
No one can argue that this woman's justification for (in my opinion) overly nursing her child are not disturbing. I was merely pointing out the fact this type of reality is not unprecedented nor even uncommon...as strange as that might seem.
"Excuse me Mother, May I borrow th car? I've finished with my homework and my chores. Do you have a moment to breast feed me now.? I have a date later, so I won't be here."
I have to say..I breast-fed both my kids till the hit around 2yo...at that point we all were DONE. nutritionally, emotionally...everything.
I think beyond that..it has more to do with the inability of the mother to separate from the child...
#9 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 1:08 PM ESTreferring to mothers who go beyond what you did:
I think that -"three" times is playing with it
sorry but I really do
.......and the child is a boy. Hmm. Do the math.
Ick. I need a haz-mat shower now.
Stuff like this is just so.........................WRONG
Pedophilia disguised as one of the most natural and nurturing things a mother can do for her child.
Does anyone else see the perversion or is it just me?
#10 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 1:08 PM ESTSo if she's 'comforting' him as 5 year old................does she think it's ok to have that as an option.......he didn't make the VARSITY football team..........Come to mama lemme comfort you............makes it into the college of his dreams but not the program.......come to mama lemme comfort you...............Oh, honey, getting a divorce? Come to mama lemme comfort you.
Seriously? Lady you got issues.
lmao....but, ewwwww!!!! lol.
agreed. that woman has some issues, and i'm sure that kid will end up with some issues, too if it's not stopped soon.
Golden Gate:
I can see him married and taking turns with his own kids... Poor wife!
ok let's get real here................and I apologize if I am just a lil bit crass about it but seriously this just has to be said.........
The woman gets off having her boobs sucked on by her son. Period.
It's an excuse to have some sort of sexual release whenever and whereever the CHILD demands it ...so it's the child that's running the show......and she's powerless to stop it. Ah huh. I see so its the kid with some weird pedophilic orally fixated issue that causes his mother to breastfeed long past the time necessary or appropriate. Right. Ok
C'mon we all know how good it feels when it's done between consenting NON-LACTATING adults.........but with a kindergartner?
I bet you any money they also have the 'family bed' thing going on too.
Ok now I am just grossing myself out even more........
etch-a-sketch moment!
Can you just imagine what her boobs look like after doing this with all three kids?!?!?
#11 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 1:10 PM ESTAnd why should you care? Do you have any interest in her boobs that we don't know about. Unless you have a personal interest, keep you nose in your own life, stand in front of a mirror and evaluate your own. And don't bother to report back, I don't think anybody cares.
Can you just imagine what her boobs look like after doing this with all three kids?!?!?
I could. But I won't.
That kid will be easy prey for the others in grade school unless something changes quickly. I think too many mothers don't realize that their children will have to fend for themselves, and sooner than they might think!
#13 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 1:22 PM ESTExactly. Could you imagine what kids would say if they saw him drinking his mothers milk? I doubt any parents would allow their child to visit.
Maybe you don't think enough and if you do, your thoughts are blurred. Let the woman be. Why do you have to have an opinion about others. Is you own life not satisfying enough that you have to prey on what others do or don't do?
First of all this is called a message board where you are free to comment as you please. Having an opinion is part of life. Anyone who goes through life without an opinion will have some serious issues. Perhaps, you should not be on newsvine if you have no idea to comprehend an adult article and state your opinion...
Can we say this kid when he grows up is going to have one mean, ugly case of oral fixation?
Ladies gird your boobs!
#14 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 1:40 PM ESTGolden, the child said he would stop breastfeeding when he was NINE~~
So you see he has a plan to take a few years off of the bitty...before he starts dating!
I get the feeling that this mother will find excuses to keep her youngest "chompin' at the bit(ty)" -- so to speak -- for a very long time.
This is not about comforting the child... this is one very disturbed mother who refuses to allow her children to grow up.
Agreed Dave!
I fully support you... it's just I must find the humor in this or it will drive me to drink!
She has completely lost it, my son watched it with me and was laughing and then he just shook his head and said that is messed up.
I must find the humor in this or it will drive me to drink!
Hey... if a little 'comforting' is what you crave... oh, nevermind.
Oh I see the CHILD will decide when he's had enough of sucking the life out his mother...........
spineless pedophilic twit!
just gross.
This makes me want to poke out my mind's eye! Bottom line for me is that a child needs to learn to learn to self comfort...not through "bitty!" Six years old is waaaaay to old! Mercy!
#15 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 3:25 PM ESTCan't blame the child in this case... mommie dearest is long past the deep end.
I used to work with a woman that breast fed her child until he was a little over 5. When she brought her son into work he would ask her for a drink and she would whip out her boob kneel down and he would get a drink while sitting on her knee. So disturbing and weird on so many levels. All I would think is that this poor kid is going to have many issues.
#16 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 4:07 PM ESTWell at least TWO that we know of after all the left breast isn't producing enough milk for the lad...
La Leche? Lactation video sites? Men worshipping boobs? And there I was feeling I had nothing of value....
#18 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 7:47 PM ESTyou mean you didn't know men worshipped boobs? and butts, and legs, and hands, and bellies, and feet and fingers and necks and ears and eyes and arms and....
Hey, Chris in PHX, wake up!... Relax. Take a deep breath... You were gone there for a moment.
It's not that weird, I mean it seems sort of unsettling, but it's uncalled for to assume the kids going to have problems or that the mother is crazy. Unless there is some evidence that suggests this is going to harm the kid somehow I can't see an obvious problem with it. I think it's rotally off base to assume a sexual subtext to it, I mean the kids five, if he has a nightmare and want's to sleep in his mommy's bed you wouldnt call that sexual. People in the US tend to see sex everywhere, but I doubt either the mother or the child see it that way.
#19 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 8:26 PM ESTI think she had an attachment to it because she tried to get pregnant for a long time got pregnant around the age of 39. She could not get pregnant again so I think she had an issue with giving it up, but breast feeding is about the baby not the parent.
I agree up to a point. I breast fed all four of mine, key here being "until they weaned themselves". Most children wean themselves shortly after age 2, possibly to 3, but there is nothing that points to it being necessary for any reason after that age. A child can be comforted just by sitting on your lap and being held, or as whatanoddguy said, by climbing into bed with the parent(s). My daughter was my last child and she nursed til almost 3 and I didn't mind because I knew that was my last one and that sort of closeness would never come again. But even with that, I had a lot of people giving me grief over it. 5 and up is WAY too old.
#20 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:18 PM ESTI've been in several homes over the years for my job where women allow their kids, (boys, especially) to run around naked...I don't mean toddlers, either. There seems to be certain personalities that seem to be more liberated than the rest of us...
#21 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 9:21 PM ESThaha yes I have 3 sons and 2 of them have had a naked phase. I allowed it at home because they were around the age of 2 but not at other people's houses or in public. I figured it was truly the only time in their lives that they would be able to run around naked so why not. Anything that is harmless and fun to them is fine by me, I just want them to enjoy their childhood.
I just want to point out how funny the poster of this brought it to our attention and then suggested we boycott it. Usually if you don't want people to watch something you avoid bringing it to their attention.
#24 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 10:17 PM ESTGlad I could amuse you.
I think all we need to know about this story was provided within the online article. My point of boycotting the televised interview is a suggestion to send a message to ABC in the hopes that the network will cease giving publicity to such people who choose to glorify themselves by exposing their outrageous behavior.
Why do people always want t push their believes down onto others? Can't you leave peole alone, let them do what they believe is right? The news media and individuals can not find pleasure in theirown lives and then they have to stick their snotty noses into the lives of others. Get a life and do what you believe in without stepping on the toes of others. If you lack the gray matter to make a life of your own, check into an institution where you life is planned, every minute of the day. This woman has done nothing to harm or interfere in anybody elses life, she deserves the right to live her own life the same way.
#25 - Fri Jan 2, 2009 10:24 PM ESTPersonally, I don't care what she does with her 'BoBos' -- sorry, but that was unavoidable -- but she is an attention-seeker who thinks nothing of publicizing herself and her children.
I and most commenters here believe that she is harming her child. Maybe you don't. Good for you.
Curious--in what way is she harming her child? I hear harsh terms being thrown around but nobody seems to want to mention HOW it's hurting the child or, for that matter, offer evidence of the harm. Plenty of posters mention that it makes THEM uncomfortable but refuse to address what a few others have said about the taboo being a social construct, not a universal issue.
This issue has been addressed by both social services and the US courts and neither have found evidence that extended nursing is harmful.
As for it being sexual in nature--why would you assume that to be true any more than you would in other cases? Breastfeeding releases "happy hormones" in many women and that has nothing to do with sex. Isn't it possible that the child is comforted by the act and at the same time the mother is soothed by the hormones? As long as the child is allowed to stop when he/she wants to, why would it be up to us to tell this family, ANY family, what to do?
I personally think it's strange that so many parents allow (encourage) their kids to watch an hour+ of tv every day and regularly feed them processed, chemical-laden foods. However, it would be pretty close-minded and judgemental of me to attack them about it--even though there is plenty of evidence that these actions are harmful. In the end, it's the family's call and I respect that.
I think the mother is doing this for herself, I think the breastfeeding is for the baby and their nurishment not the mother to feel good. From the 1 person I have known to do this and breastfeed her 5 year old in front of people her son is older now, over weight and has insecurity issues. He is now 10 and from the ages of 5-10 I think he had a hard time adjusting because the breastfeeding was a comfort and he no longer has that security. He was outcasted for whatever reason and was switched into a private school because he was not fitting in at a regular school. He seems to be odd and I feel bad so I am not sure if it is from the parenting and the type of mom that would breastfeed her child until he was 5+ or if it is just how he is. His mom was very strict with him and his tv time as well and fed him organic food and had him in many different groups, he is the only child and received a lot of attention growing up. (she had difficulties getting pregnant and could only have 1) I think most of the breastfeeding until he was 5 was for her own sake and her own comfort and was much less about him. He could get the same and more nourishment at that point through his own eating and by actually eating the foods that he was getting through his mom. She only shopped organic so I never understood why he could not just get all of his nourishment on his own and why she would feel that he needed her milk still. Also if it was about the nourishment to the child why not just pump the milk? I think 3 would have to be the max and although I try not to judge anything after that seems like it would be more harmful than good to a child.
I think any child old enough to give a TV interview should be weaned.
skye - troll much? i think it's supposed to be done when the topic is hotter than one month old....
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